Comments on: A URL is enough to win ISA best company of the year http://segala.com/blog/a-url-is-enough-to-win-best-company-of-the-year-award/ Enabling a Reliable, Consistent and Trusted Experience Sun, 13 Mar 2011 18:37:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Golden ISA http://segala.com/blog/a-url-is-enough-to-win-best-company-of-the-year-award/comment-page-1/#comment-1274628 Golden ISA Tue, 04 May 2010 04:18:58 +0000 http://segala.com/blog/a-url-is-enough-to-win-best-company-of-the-year-award/#comment-1274628 Companies like LouderVoice wouldn't and shouldn't pay much large fees for body of an industry association. Yet, it may remember and win prizewinning new affiliate of the twelvemonth. Moreover, the awards should not be limited to members exclusive, that's nearly purchasing an content listing to awards. It's a shambles because most people give naturally act that these companies fuck won an 'industry' gift, not a sequestered members' lodge gift that's exclusive unstoppered to the wealthy. Liam - you talked near 'established companies', which understandably doesn't rise into the speechmaking. "What has the award got to do with the soul? Everything, a associate without its grouping is naught." Manifestly I completely agree. BUT the laurels is for optimum new fellowship, not prizewinning new (worse again, recognised) businessperson. ------------------------------ smith Companies like LouderVoice wouldn’t and shouldn’t pay much large fees for body of an industry association. Yet, it may remember and win prizewinning new affiliate of the twelvemonth. Moreover, the awards should not be limited to members exclusive, that’s nearly purchasing an content listing to awards.

It’s a shambles because most people give naturally act that these companies fuck won an ‘industry’ gift, not a sequestered members’ lodge gift that’s exclusive unstoppered to the wealthy.

Liam – you talked near ‘established companies’, which understandably doesn’t rise into the speechmaking.

“What has the award got to do with the soul? Everything, a associate without its grouping is naught.”

Manifestly I completely agree. BUT the laurels is for optimum new fellowship, not prizewinning new (worse again, recognised) businessperson.
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]]> By: Jack http://segala.com/blog/a-url-is-enough-to-win-best-company-of-the-year-award/comment-page-1/#comment-1027963 Jack Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:32:43 +0000 http://segala.com/blog/a-url-is-enough-to-win-best-company-of-the-year-award/#comment-1027963 Hi I agree with Fergus. Peter Conlon is a very clever guy. Peter Conlon and Anna Kupka who are founder's of Ammado. Are 2 of the 3 Directors in Xsil Ltd. Xsil Ltd have refused to pay their employee's since 25th of Sept. And are now in the process of making them all redundant with all the outstanding wages & Holiday pay not paid. See various newspaper artical's for full story. God only knows what they will do with charity money. If they will not even pay their own enployee's. Hi
I agree with Fergus. Peter Conlon is a very clever guy.
Peter Conlon and Anna Kupka who are founder’s of Ammado. Are 2 of the 3 Directors in Xsil Ltd. Xsil Ltd have refused to pay their employee’s since 25th of Sept. And are now in the process of making them all redundant with all the outstanding wages & Holiday pay not paid.
See various newspaper artical’s for full story.

God only knows what they will do with charity money. If they will not even pay their own enployee’s.

]]> By: Paul Walsh http://segala.com/blog/a-url-is-enough-to-win-best-company-of-the-year-award/comment-page-1/#comment-199871 Paul Walsh Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:27:15 +0000 http://segala.com/blog/a-url-is-enough-to-win-best-company-of-the-year-award/#comment-199871 Conor - the EXTREMELY high membership fee only adds weight to my post. Companies like LouderVoice wouldn't and shouldn't pay such massive fees for membership of an industry association. Yet, it may qualify and win best new company of the year. Moreover, the awards should not be restricted to members only, that’s almost buying an entry ticket to awards. It’s a shambles because most people will naturally assume that these companies have won an ‘industry’ award, not a private members’ club award that’s only open to the wealthy. Liam - you talked about 'established companies', which clearly doesn't come into the debate. "What has the award got to do with the person? Everything, a company without its people is nothing." Obviously I completely agree. BUT the award is for best new company, not best new (worse again, established) entrepreneur. I did not mention Web 2.0 in my post. Read the comments again and you'll find that I was merely addressing Fergus' point - who almost represents http://web2ireland.org Conor – the EXTREMELY high membership fee only adds weight to my post. Companies like LouderVoice wouldn’t and shouldn’t pay such massive fees for membership of an industry association. Yet, it may qualify and win best new company of the year. Moreover, the awards should not be restricted to members only, that’s almost buying an entry ticket to awards.

It’s a shambles because most people will naturally assume that these companies have won an ‘industry’ award, not a private members’ club award that’s only open to the wealthy.

Liam – you talked about ‘established companies’, which clearly doesn’t come into the debate.

“What has the award got to do with the person? Everything, a company without its people is nothing.”

Obviously I completely agree. BUT the award is for best new company, not best new (worse again, established) entrepreneur.

I did not mention Web 2.0 in my post. Read the comments again and you’ll find that I was merely addressing Fergus’ point – who almost represents http://web2ireland.org

]]> By: Liam Lowe http://segala.com/blog/a-url-is-enough-to-win-best-company-of-the-year-award/comment-page-1/#comment-199831 Liam Lowe Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:55:26 +0000 http://segala.com/blog/a-url-is-enough-to-win-best-company-of-the-year-award/#comment-199831 What extreme examples? I have no idea on entry "criterion", but if I was going to post a blog rant, I would have first done some research on what they were. What has the award got to do with the person? Everything, a company without its people is nothing. The Irish Software Association did not represent these awards as web 2.0 or Internet awards. Only you did this. "Just because ‘you’ know what the company can do, your opinion is not that of the industry" Is yours? What extreme examples?
I have no idea on entry “criterion”, but if I was going to post a blog rant, I would have first done some research on what they were.
What has the award got to do with the person? Everything, a company without its people is nothing.

The Irish Software Association did not represent these awards as web 2.0 or Internet awards.
Only you did this.
“Just because ‘you’ know what the company can do, your opinion is not that of the industry”
Is yours?

]]> By: Paul Walsh http://segala.com/blog/a-url-is-enough-to-win-best-company-of-the-year-award/comment-page-1/#comment-199802 Paul Walsh Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:32:50 +0000 http://segala.com/blog/a-url-is-enough-to-win-best-company-of-the-year-award/#comment-199802 Fergus - what has the award got to do with the person? It’s supposed to be nominated to a company. I think you’ve just answered what has gone wrong! The person is not up for the award and just because they have a proven track record, it doesn't mean their company should automatically win awards based on their potential. Your first two paragraphs actually prove my point... the person is known to the ISA, they have plenty of money and “to be a member you need more money than sense”. That doesn’t paint a very independent picture to me. So, this means that new companies, who typically don't have a lot of money to fork out on membership fees, are excluded from entering. Sounds like a private gentlemen's club. This doesn’t in any way, demonstrate that the ISA has awoken to Web 2.0. If it does, I feel sorry for Web 2.0 in Ireland because it would appear that the industry is being given a false sense of security with regards to what it means to have a (potentially) successful company. To the outside world, it would appear that you only need to have a registration page to win an award in Ireland. I’m sure we won’t hear from many new companies on this blog in fear of them being coined as ‘jealous’, but on this instance, I’d love to hear more about the type of companies that deserved this award. It’s a crying shame that the two blogs that represent Web 2.0 in Ireland to the outside world, see this as a good thing. You need to think bigger than ‘private beta’ and this wasn’t a Web 2.0 award. That doesn’t cut it. Fergus – what has the award got to do with the person? It’s supposed to be nominated to a company. I think you’ve just answered what has gone wrong!

The person is not up for the award and just because they have a proven track record, it doesn’t mean their company should automatically win awards based on their potential. Your first two paragraphs actually prove my point… the person is known to the ISA, they have plenty of money and “to be a member you need more money than sense”. That doesn’t paint a very independent picture to me.

So, this means that new companies, who typically don’t have a lot of money to fork out on membership fees, are excluded from entering. Sounds like a private gentlemen’s club.

This doesn’t in any way, demonstrate that the ISA has awoken to Web 2.0. If it does, I feel sorry for Web 2.0 in Ireland because it would appear that the industry is being given a false sense of security with regards to what it means to have a (potentially) successful company. To the outside world, it would appear that you only need to have a registration page to win an award in Ireland.

I’m sure we won’t hear from many new companies on this blog in fear of them being coined as ‘jealous’, but on this instance, I’d love to hear more about the type of companies that deserved this award.

It’s a crying shame that the two blogs that represent Web 2.0 in Ireland to the outside world, see this as a good thing. You need to think bigger than ‘private beta’ and this wasn’t a Web 2.0 award. That doesn’t cut it.

]]> By: Paul Walsh http://segala.com/blog/a-url-is-enough-to-win-best-company-of-the-year-award/comment-page-1/#comment-199797 Paul Walsh Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:25:33 +0000 http://segala.com/blog/a-url-is-enough-to-win-best-company-of-the-year-award/#comment-199797 Liam - providing extreme examples to demonstrate a point never works in my opinion. It only prolongs the debate with the same points being made. A new company can be a year old and have sold a few things, or gained a few members. Something. WHERE is the entry criterion which is used to help companies understand if they can apply? I’m no closer to understanding ‘why’ the award was given. There must be ‘some’ traction to demonstrate why a company should win an award. What other reason is there to given an award? It doesn’t say ‘potential’ anywhere. If it's not going to be revenue based, then it must be members, users, pr... something that reflects the new breed of Internet company. Just because ‘you’ know what the company can do, your opinion is not that of the industry. It doesn’t mean it should win an award. If it said on the tin ‘hey this award was given by a few mates whilst smoking a few cigars’, I wouldn’t have a problem. It’s not about what the people around the winner’s dinner table think, or the private commentators/bloggers who have received an invite. Conor – I’m not really arguing over award ‘winners’. I’m questioning the authenticity of the award itself. Liam – providing extreme examples to demonstrate a point never works in my opinion. It only prolongs the debate with the same points being made. A new company can be a year old and have sold a few things, or gained a few members. Something.

WHERE is the entry criterion which is used to help companies understand if they can apply? I’m no closer to understanding ‘why’ the award was given.

There must be ‘some’ traction to demonstrate why a company should win an award. What other reason is there to given an award? It doesn’t say ‘potential’ anywhere. If it’s not going to be revenue based, then it must be members, users, pr… something that reflects the new breed of Internet company.

Just because ‘you’ know what the company can do, your opinion is not that of the industry. It doesn’t mean it should win an award. If it said on the tin ‘hey this award was given by a few mates whilst smoking a few cigars’, I wouldn’t have a problem. It’s not about what the people around the winner’s dinner table think, or the private commentators/bloggers who have received an invite.

Conor – I’m not really arguing over award ‘winners’. I’m questioning the authenticity of the award itself.

]]> By: Michele http://segala.com/blog/a-url-is-enough-to-win-best-company-of-the-year-award/comment-page-1/#comment-199773 Michele Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:04:49 +0000 http://segala.com/blog/a-url-is-enough-to-win-best-company-of-the-year-award/#comment-199773 What advantages would 2k membership bring you?? What advantages would 2k membership bring you??

]]> By: Conor O'Neill http://segala.com/blog/a-url-is-enough-to-win-best-company-of-the-year-award/comment-page-1/#comment-199772 Conor O'Neill Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:03:16 +0000 http://segala.com/blog/a-url-is-enough-to-win-best-company-of-the-year-award/#comment-199772 That's a good point by Fergus. I enquired about ISA membership last year. Companies from €0-€1m turnover pay the same! €2000 a year! I declined. That’s a good point by Fergus. I enquired about ISA membership last year. Companies from €0-€1m turnover pay the same! €2000 a year! I declined.

]]> By: Michele http://segala.com/blog/a-url-is-enough-to-win-best-company-of-the-year-award/comment-page-1/#comment-199360 Michele Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:15:22 +0000 http://segala.com/blog/a-url-is-enough-to-win-best-company-of-the-year-award/#comment-199360 I was a bit confused when I saw them winning that award as well. I got an invite to the beta, but I'm not that impressed with its UI at all. How a company that hasn't even got a public product or service can win an award is beyond me as well. Drawing a parallel to Gmail doesn't hold much water. Gmail may have been "invite only", but just about everyone got one after the first few weeks. I was a bit confused when I saw them winning that award as well. I got an invite to the beta, but I’m not that impressed with its UI at all. How a company that hasn’t even got a public product or service can win an award is beyond me as well.
Drawing a parallel to Gmail doesn’t hold much water. Gmail may have been “invite only”, but just about everyone got one after the first few weeks.

]]> By: Conor O'Neill http://segala.com/blog/a-url-is-enough-to-win-best-company-of-the-year-award/comment-page-1/#comment-199314 Conor O'Neill Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:24:04 +0000 http://segala.com/blog/a-url-is-enough-to-win-best-company-of-the-year-award/#comment-199314 Good point on eBay Liam. I hadn't thought of it like that. A market for your charity donations. Neat. Good point on eBay Liam. I hadn’t thought of it like that. A market for your charity donations. Neat.

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