Comments on: Is Enterprise Ireland and the ISA corrupt? http://segala.com/blog/is-enterprise-ireland-and-the-isa-corrupt/ Enabling a Reliable, Consistent and Trusted Experience Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:29:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Dennis Howlett http://segala.com/blog/is-enterprise-ireland-and-the-isa-corrupt/#comment-211855 Dennis Howlett Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:11:08 +0000 http://segala.com/blog/is-enterprise-ireland-and-the-isa-corrupt/#comment-211855 @Paul - missed the www: http://www.transparency.org/ works The Flood and Moriarty Tribunals - ongoing since 1997, Morris enquiry, Joseph Rowntree Charitable Trust report on political corruption as a 'central theme' in Ireland...and that's before we get to the issue of Ireland as a tax haven and the corrosive effect that has on life. (I have some numbers on this: eg MSFT - washes $400mill taxes via Ireland despite employing relatively few people.) The fact you've chosen to use the word leads me to assume that there is a sense among those who are trying to operate out of Ireland that 'corruption' exists in at least this one small part of the economy. Point is that anywhere where process is opaque - you've got to ask the question: why? @Paul - missed the www: http://www.transparency.org/ works

The Flood and Moriarty Tribunals - ongoing since 1997, Morris enquiry, Joseph Rowntree Charitable Trust report on political corruption as a ‘central theme’ in Ireland…and that’s before we get to the issue of Ireland as a tax haven and the corrosive effect that has on life. (I have some numbers on this: eg MSFT - washes $400mill taxes via Ireland despite employing relatively few people.)

The fact you’ve chosen to use the word leads me to assume that there is a sense among those who are trying to operate out of Ireland that ‘corruption’ exists in at least this one small part of the economy.

Point is that anywhere where process is opaque - you’ve got to ask the question: why?

]]> By: Paul Walsh http://segala.com/blog/is-enterprise-ireland-and-the-isa-corrupt/#comment-210935 Paul Walsh Sat, 01 Dec 2007 20:25:14 +0000 http://segala.com/blog/is-enterprise-ireland-and-the-isa-corrupt/#comment-210935 Dennis you're picking me up wrong. I think there is a little corruption in Ireland when it comes to doing business. I thought you were saying I was a little harsh - hence why I asked if what I was saying would make more sense if I removed the word 'corrupt'. I think it would be a little harsh to brand 'Ireland' as corrupt as that's like saying every company, including Segala, is corrupt. Dennis you’re picking me up wrong. I think there is a little corruption in Ireland when it comes to doing business. I thought you were saying I was a little harsh - hence why I asked if what I was saying would make more sense if I removed the word ‘corrupt’.

I think it would be a little harsh to brand ‘Ireland’ as corrupt as that’s like saying every company, including Segala, is corrupt.

]]> By: Dennis Howlett http://segala.com/blog/is-enterprise-ireland-and-the-isa-corrupt/#comment-210861 Dennis Howlett Sat, 01 Dec 2007 19:11:56 +0000 http://segala.com/blog/is-enterprise-ireland-and-the-isa-corrupt/#comment-210861 @Paul: you can wish word ever way you you want. You can't walk away from the Eire corrupt way of doing business that easily. You want the international measured? Easy - join our side, If not then be prepared to be treated as a market parahia. Your choice. @Paul: you can wish word ever way you you want. You can’t walk away from the Eire corrupt way of doing business that easily. You want the international measured? Easy - join our side, If not then be prepared to be treated as a market parahia. Your choice.

]]> By: Paul Walsh http://segala.com/blog/is-enterprise-ireland-and-the-isa-corrupt/#comment-210820 Paul Walsh Sat, 01 Dec 2007 18:21:44 +0000 http://segala.com/blog/is-enterprise-ireland-and-the-isa-corrupt/#comment-210820 Dennis I'm not sure I know what you mean... would it make the conversation easier if we just ignore the word 'corrupt' and go with the rest of the post? Would you double check that URL again mate as it doesn't work for me. Dennis I’m not sure I know what you mean… would it make the conversation easier if we just ignore the word ‘corrupt’ and go with the rest of the post? Would you double check that URL again mate as it doesn’t work for me.

]]> By: Dennis Howlett http://segala.com/blog/is-enterprise-ireland-and-the-isa-corrupt/#comment-210684 Dennis Howlett Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:18:23 +0000 http://segala.com/blog/is-enterprise-ireland-and-the-isa-corrupt/#comment-210684 Ach - Paul - you're losing sight of the wider picture: check http:tansprarency.org to see where I'm coming from. Ach - Paul - you’re losing sight of the wider picture: check http:tansprarency.org to see where I’m coming from.

]]> By: Paul Walsh http://segala.com/blog/is-enterprise-ireland-and-the-isa-corrupt/#comment-210675 Paul Walsh Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:02:47 +0000 http://segala.com/blog/is-enterprise-ireland-and-the-isa-corrupt/#comment-210675 Probably not Dennis. I'm not concerned or me or 'Segala'. But I do care about others who could benefit from a better setup in Ireland. Probably not Dennis. I’m not concerned or me or ‘Segala’. But I do care about others who could benefit from a better setup in Ireland.

]]> By: Dennis Howlett http://segala.com/blog/is-enterprise-ireland-and-the-isa-corrupt/#comment-210520 Dennis Howlett Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:02:47 +0000 http://segala.com/blog/is-enterprise-ireland-and-the-isa-corrupt/#comment-210520 I see what you're saying. If it is corrupt then would anyone who trades on reputation want to be involved anyway? I see what you’re saying. If it is corrupt then would anyone who trades on reputation want to be involved anyway?

]]> By: Paul Walsh http://segala.com/blog/is-enterprise-ireland-and-the-isa-corrupt/#comment-210515 Paul Walsh Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:57:53 +0000 http://segala.com/blog/is-enterprise-ireland-and-the-isa-corrupt/#comment-210515 @Dennis - Read Fergus' comment "[footnote: i applied last year - before the deadline date - but after the people were selected… go figure that one out]" Also, there's no information about this on the ISA Web site and Enterprise Ireland doesn't say on its Web site, how you can apply. It's all behind closed doors... I'm asking the question, not making a statement. @Dennis - Read Fergus’ comment “[footnote: i applied last year - before the deadline date - but after the people were selected… go figure that one out]”

Also, there’s no information about this on the ISA Web site and Enterprise Ireland doesn’t say on its Web site, how you can apply. It’s all behind closed doors…

I’m asking the question, not making a statement.

]]> By: Dennis Howlett http://segala.com/blog/is-enterprise-ireland-and-the-isa-corrupt/#comment-209975 Dennis Howlett Sat, 01 Dec 2007 03:05:54 +0000 http://segala.com/blog/is-enterprise-ireland-and-the-isa-corrupt/#comment-209975 Where does the 'corrupt' bit come into this? Where does the ‘corrupt’ bit come into this?

]]> By: Fergus Burns http://segala.com/blog/is-enterprise-ireland-and-the-isa-corrupt/#comment-209886 Fergus Burns Sat, 01 Dec 2007 01:33:19 +0000 http://segala.com/blog/is-enterprise-ireland-and-the-isa-corrupt/#comment-209886 I was made aware my one of the participants - i didn't realize that this programme was happening again [footnote: i applied last year - before the deadline date - but after the people were selected... go figure that one out] not much information @ L4G initiative - i would have guessed under normal guidelines this would be an "open application". Obviously the selection process was on a par with the English FA [smoky backrooms] A bit more transparency, communications and some diversity [from the regions, sectors, etc] would help a lot - anybody listening. I guess with all this attention we can forget about next years programme as well - back to biz... I was made aware my one of the participants - i didn’t realize that this programme was happening again [footnote: i applied last year - before the deadline date - but after the people were selected... go figure that one out]

not much information @ L4G initiative - i would have guessed under normal guidelines this would be an “open application”.

Obviously the selection process was on a par with the English FA [smoky backrooms]

A bit more transparency, communications and some diversity [from the regions, sectors, etc] would help a lot - anybody listening.

I guess with all this attention we can forget about next years programme as well - back to biz…

]]> By: Conor O'Neill http://segala.com/blog/is-enterprise-ireland-and-the-isa-corrupt/#comment-209453 Conor O'Neill Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:38:34 +0000 http://segala.com/blog/is-enterprise-ireland-and-the-isa-corrupt/#comment-209453 I wasn't given any information on this. I believe EI do it by invitation only. You can't even register your interest in attending. I wasn’t given any information on this. I believe EI do it by invitation only. You can’t even register your interest in attending.

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