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		<title>By: Smith</title>
		<link>http://segala.com/blog/london-mashup-semantic-web-or-web-30/comment-page-1/#comment-727209</link>
		<dc:creator>Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This content has been Agglom (erated) with other similar ones on http://www.agglom.com/agglom/82 - Web 3.0 - meaningless or future - What do you think about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This content has been Agglom (erated) with other similar ones on <a href="http://www.agglom.com/agglom/82" rel="nofollow">http://www.agglom.com/agglom/82</a> &#8211; Web 3.0 &#8211; meaningless or future &#8211; What do you think about?</p>
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		<title>By: BIMA Blog &#187; UK Startups vs the US Upstarts</title>
		<link>http://segala.com/blog/london-mashup-semantic-web-or-web-30/comment-page-1/#comment-24647</link>
		<dc:creator>BIMA Blog &#187; UK Startups vs the US Upstarts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A much needed ecosystem to enable better collaboration is starting to form in London, with people like Saul Klein kicking off initiatives such as OpenCoffee, Robert Loch and Paul Birch running (compelling) Internet People and informal gatherings for Creative People (supported by me from a BIMA perspective) and Sam Sethi running mashup events. And these are just a few of the networking opportunities that attract an average of 80 likeminded opportunists on a regular basis. Then you have intimate and private breakfast meetings which Iâ€™ve attended, along with people such as Paul Birch, Robert Loch, Olly Barrett, Saul Campbell, Judy Gibbons, Judith Clegg, Michael Smith, Saul Campbell, Sam Sethi, Daniel Appelquist and more. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A much needed ecosystem to enable better collaboration is starting to form in London, with people like Saul Klein kicking off initiatives such as OpenCoffee, Robert Loch and Paul Birch running (compelling) Internet People and informal gatherings for Creative People (supported by me from a BIMA perspective) and Sam Sethi running mashup events. And these are just a few of the networking opportunities that attract an average of 80 likeminded opportunists on a regular basis. Then you have intimate and private breakfast meetings which Iâ€™ve attended, along with people such as Paul Birch, Robert Loch, Olly Barrett, Saul Campbell, Judy Gibbons, Judith Clegg, Michael Smith, Saul Campbell, Sam Sethi, Daniel Appelquist and more. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: UK Startups vs the US Upstarts &#171; BIMA&#8217;s Voice</title>
		<link>http://segala.com/blog/london-mashup-semantic-web-or-web-30/comment-page-1/#comment-6798</link>
		<dc:creator>UK Startups vs the US Upstarts &#171; BIMA&#8217;s Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A much needed ecosystem to enable better collaboration is starting to form in London, with people like Saul Klein kicking off initiatives such as OpenCoffee, Robert Loch and Paul Birch running (compelling) Internet People and informal gatherings for Creative People (supported by me from a BIMA perspective) and Sam Sethi running mashup events. And these are just a few of the networking opportunities that attract an average of 80 likeminded opportunists on a regular basis. Then you have intimate and private breakfast meetings which Iâ€™ve attended, along with people such as Paul Birch, Robert Loch, Olly Barrett, Saul Campbell, Judy Gibbons, Judith Clegg, Michael Smith, Saul Campbell, Sam Sethi, Daniel Appelquist and more. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A much needed ecosystem to enable better collaboration is starting to form in London, with people like Saul Klein kicking off initiatives such as OpenCoffee, Robert Loch and Paul Birch running (compelling) Internet People and informal gatherings for Creative People (supported by me from a BIMA perspective) and Sam Sethi running mashup events. And these are just a few of the networking opportunities that attract an average of 80 likeminded opportunists on a regular basis. Then you have intimate and private breakfast meetings which Iâ€™ve attended, along with people such as Paul Birch, Robert Loch, Olly Barrett, Saul Campbell, Judy Gibbons, Judith Clegg, Michael Smith, Saul Campbell, Sam Sethi, Daniel Appelquist and more. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: European Startups vs the US Upstarts</title>
		<link>http://segala.com/blog/london-mashup-semantic-web-or-web-30/comment-page-1/#comment-6795</link>
		<dc:creator>European Startups vs the US Upstarts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A much needed ecosystem to enable better collaboration is starting to form in London, with people like Saul Klein kicking off initiatives such as OpenCoffee, Robert Loch and Paul Birch running (compelling) Internet People and informal gatherings for Creative People (supported by me from a BIMA perspective) and Sam Sethi running mashup events. And these are just a few of the networking opportunities that attract an average of 80 likeminded opportunists on a regular basis. Then you have intimate and private breakfast meetings which Iâ€™ve attended, along with people such as Paul Birch, Robert Loch, Olly Barrett, Saul Campbell, Judy Gibbons, Judith Clegg, Michael Smith, Saul Campbell, Sam Sethi, Daniel Appelquist and more. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A much needed ecosystem to enable better collaboration is starting to form in London, with people like Saul Klein kicking off initiatives such as OpenCoffee, Robert Loch and Paul Birch running (compelling) Internet People and informal gatherings for Creative People (supported by me from a BIMA perspective) and Sam Sethi running mashup events. And these are just a few of the networking opportunities that attract an average of 80 likeminded opportunists on a regular basis. Then you have intimate and private breakfast meetings which Iâ€™ve attended, along with people such as Paul Birch, Robert Loch, Olly Barrett, Saul Campbell, Judy Gibbons, Judith Clegg, Michael Smith, Saul Campbell, Sam Sethi, Daniel Appelquist and more. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Walsh</title>
		<link>http://segala.com/blog/london-mashup-semantic-web-or-web-30/comment-page-1/#comment-478</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tom. We&#039;ve been labelling sites after certifying them so site owners and developers don&#039;t even know about the Content Label most of the time. Now that we&#039;re promoting labels specifically, we&#039;ll have to demonstrate just how easy it is. Watch this space - well, you&#039;ll be one of the first we&#039;ll tell :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tom. We&#8217;ve been labelling sites after certifying them so site owners and developers don&#8217;t even know about the Content Label most of the time. Now that we&#8217;re promoting labels specifically, we&#8217;ll have to demonstrate just how easy it is. Watch this space &#8211; well, you&#8217;ll be one of the first we&#8217;ll tell <img src='http://segala.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tom Raftery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Raftery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done on the talk Paul - I&#039;d love to have been there.

Content Labels are a great idea esp. considering how easy they are to roll out. It was a piece of pi** adding them to my sites once your guys had done the certification.

Cheers,

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done on the talk Paul &#8211; I&#8217;d love to have been there.</p>
<p>Content Labels are a great idea esp. considering how easy they are to roll out. It was a piece of pi** adding them to my sites once your guys had done the certification.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Featured posts from the week - one post has a staggering wordcount of 16,000 words</title>
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		<dc:creator>Featured posts from the week - one post has a staggering wordcount of 16,000 words</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] London mashup* Semantic Web or Web 3.0? There&#8217;s an interesting debate going on about Content Labels following my keynote presentation at the London mashup* (24 comments) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] London mashup* Semantic Web or Web 3.0? There&#8217;s an interesting debate going on about Content Labels following my keynote presentation at the London mashup* (24 comments) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Walsh</title>
		<link>http://segala.com/blog/london-mashup-semantic-web-or-web-30/comment-page-1/#comment-474</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jag - don&#039;t get hung up on green ticks and an red X. These are all things that are subject to change based on what people want to see. It&#039;s getting a reaction which means I&#039;m doing what I set out to do :)

It was a pleasure to use the photos. You&#039;ll notice that I&#039;ve changed the original post to include a link to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jag &#8211; don&#8217;t get hung up on green ticks and an red X. These are all things that are subject to change based on what people want to see. It&#8217;s getting a reaction which means I&#8217;m doing what I set out to do <img src='http://segala.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It was a pleasure to use the photos. You&#8217;ll notice that I&#8217;ve changed the original post to include a link to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Walsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks from dropping by David. I agree with your point regarding the use of Content Labels for making assertions that are not ambiguous. That&#039;s exactly what we have in mind.

It&#039;s difficult to appeal to everyone all of the time and it&#039;s even more difficult to explain everything in such a short space of time. I did get some positive feedback from the likes of BT who would like to progress with a discussion. Perhaps most of the audience was from the development community though, so Iâ€™ll keep that in mind for future reference :)

So, I agree with everything you say. I&#039;d love nothing more than say, 40 minutes to talk about the entire ecosystem that I&#039;m looking to encourage - next best thing is a post I&#039;m going to write here. Please do keep an eye on the blog and comment with your thoughts - it&#039;s great to get feedback!! 

What&#039;s worth pointing out is that Content Labels can be used to highlight whatever it is that developers already comply with. That is, Iâ€™m not looking to impose anything. Iâ€™d rather give developers a reason to comply with standards, or at least the opportunity to have a unique selling point.

In fact, if you take a look at our partner programme, it&#039;s made up of established agencies and freelance developers who use the trustmark (Content Label) as a unique selling point. That is, they can help their clients demonstrate their commitment to accessibility standards. Content Labels arenâ€™t putting additional pressure on them - quite the opposite. Take a look at what they have to say http://segala.com/partner-programme/partner-member-testimonials/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks from dropping by David. I agree with your point regarding the use of Content Labels for making assertions that are not ambiguous. That&#8217;s exactly what we have in mind.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s difficult to appeal to everyone all of the time and it&#8217;s even more difficult to explain everything in such a short space of time. I did get some positive feedback from the likes of BT who would like to progress with a discussion. Perhaps most of the audience was from the development community though, so Iâ€™ll keep that in mind for future reference <img src='http://segala.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So, I agree with everything you say. I&#8217;d love nothing more than say, 40 minutes to talk about the entire ecosystem that I&#8217;m looking to encourage &#8211; next best thing is a post I&#8217;m going to write here. Please do keep an eye on the blog and comment with your thoughts &#8211; it&#8217;s great to get feedback!! </p>
<p>What&#8217;s worth pointing out is that Content Labels can be used to highlight whatever it is that developers already comply with. That is, Iâ€™m not looking to impose anything. Iâ€™d rather give developers a reason to comply with standards, or at least the opportunity to have a unique selling point.</p>
<p>In fact, if you take a look at our partner programme, it&#8217;s made up of established agencies and freelance developers who use the trustmark (Content Label) as a unique selling point. That is, they can help their clients demonstrate their commitment to accessibility standards. Content Labels arenâ€™t putting additional pressure on them &#8211; quite the opposite. Take a look at what they have to say <a href="http://segala.com/partner-programme/partner-member-testimonials/" rel="nofollow">http://segala.com/partner-programme/partner-member-testimonials/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jag</title>
		<link>http://segala.com/blog/london-mashup-semantic-web-or-web-30/comment-page-1/#comment-470</link>
		<dc:creator>Jag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to say Paul: no worries about the picture credit - it traces back in the end anyway - and in any case I was just really pleased that you used them! :-)

Yes, I was surprised at the quality myself given the circumstances in which I took them. But it does go to prove a point that cameraphone has got incredible potential to be a user&#039;s &quot;main camera&quot;. With &quot;proper&quot; cams being reserved for &quot;special occasion&quot; use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to say Paul: no worries about the picture credit &#8211; it traces back in the end anyway &#8211; and in any case I was just really pleased that you used them! <img src='http://segala.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yes, I was surprised at the quality myself given the circumstances in which I took them. But it does go to prove a point that cameraphone has got incredible potential to be a user&#8217;s &#8220;main camera&#8221;. With &#8220;proper&#8221; cams being reserved for &#8220;special occasion&#8221; use.</p>
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